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I learned that what was legal wasn’t necessarily just.

Jose Antonio Vargas Founder and CEO, Define American; Journalist; Filmmaker
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Citizenship Without Certainty

Citizenship Without Certainty

Show Notes

What does it mean to be American? How is that story best told and understood? New York Times columnist David Brooks talks with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and undocumented immigrant Jose Antonio Vargas about citizenship without certainty. Vargas was smuggled from the Philippines to his grandparents’ home in California when he was 12 years old. He discovered a few years later that he was undocumented. In Vargas's memoir, "Dear America: Notes of an Undocumented Citizen", he describes the psychological toll he experienced from hiding from the government. The book, his first, was released September 18, 2018.

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